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Comments: "No change whatsoever" in scientists' conviction that climate change is occurring



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There are two feedback loops in play set to force a destiny not fit for man nor beast let alone anything for practically any other living thing on Earth. Final touches on this feedback loop set to release naturally sequestered methane in a first volley of events bringing the planet to its knees is being refined by man with every chop of tree or oil well drilled.. Attempts to short circuit the road to ruin by use of logic doesn't register with mankind which is geared and evolved to respond to emotion instead of what would preserve the irreplaceable natural systems that have maintained conditions suitable to life..
A second feedback loop is the financial structure bringing food to bowl and wealth to some across the globe.. Wall Street firms send lobbyists to Washington and dump big money in campaigns to elect those who would perpetuate a feedback loop designed to benefit the profit of corporations. The power of corporations is highlighted by the recent Citizens United US Supreme Court ruling allowing unlimited funds to be used to affect elections. The only brake on this soapbox racer headed downhill is the internet and its ability to let small voices be heard. Heard by all for all time for it is up to us who live today to speak up for maintaining a living planet and the rights of all.. The scientists and people willing to hold to their principles and speak truth to power today will be forever appreciated by future generations to come.

Dale Lanan

Juan Cole is a noted middle east historian at University of Michigan. He has published an influential blog for many years. It is the first thing that I read in the morning.

Today his blog references this article and then he proceeds to give advice to climate scientists on how to combat the lies and the media indifference.

I suggest you read his blog.

http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/advice-to-climate-scientists-on-how-to.html

Don Utter

I'm media-savvy. I can help. Get in touch if you are a scientist who needs to get your information out there. We need to stand strong and get the important facts up for everyone to see because it's all too easy to lose faith.
Dave (david@faunaforever.org)
Amazon rainforest, Peru

Dave Johhnston

@Dale Lanan: right to the point. As an Earth Systems Scientist I fully agree with every word you say. There are some other issues that are difficult to comprehend. One is the seemingly wide spread opinion that on a planetary scale in a realm of uncertainty taking risks with unknown outcome is duly justified, while such behavior would be considered insane in other fields, e.g. personal financial affairs, feeding unknown mushrooms to your kids (perhaps they are NOT poisonous), crossing a road without looking (no car might come!), dumping chemicals in a lake or national defence. Let's argue this way: "We need no expensive military apparatus! There are not sufficient facts suggesting with absolute certainty that there will be a military threat in the future!" It sounds absurd, but this is precisely the argument of "climate deniers" when calling for non-action.

Another issue is the mathematically entirely ridiculous idea of endless exponential economic growth. As long as economy has anything to do with physical things, it's perennial growth is impossible. If on the other hand economic (that is monetary) growth is entirely separated from the physical world, it is totally unneccessary. As I see it we have created a global system that amounts to a generator eating the natural world on one side while excreting money on the other. Therefore money has become...

Stefan Thiesen

Please explain why do climate alarmists deny that there was a robust warming period in the middle ages, far, far warmer than we have now.

And millions of years ago there was far more carbon dioxide in the air, according to ice core samples.

We do not yet know enough about climate in order to make claimed climatic predictions based on finite computer models, its a joke.

One does not have to be a scientist to understand that.

The Climate-Gate emails were not read out of context, give me a break, I downloaded thousands of them and the scientists were openly discussing that the low temp models need to be raised or it won't look good for their reputation, which = funding from the UN Bankers and the IMF who are engineering a Carbon Tax in the name of "Green."
Scientists wake up you are being played.

WH Lindemann

Huh? No one is denying the existence of a Medieval Warm Period. In any case temperatures are considerably warmer now than they were then

Tim O'Teh

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